Personal Video Database

Short update on this:
- Yesterday 5pm: old style
- Yesterday 7pm: new style
- today 5pm: old style

I think that they are heavly testing the new  style and have choosen me as their beta-tester.

Maybe I should post a twitter account to keep you up-to-date in realtime 

Sometimes the best solution is to sit a problem out. IMDB has gone back to the "old" style and the rating with the ten stars instead of only one big star is back! Therefore, downloading the imdb rating works again. 

It might help, minolotus, if you could post before and after snips of the page source for a few examples. From that, we could at least confirm whether or not we're seeing the same changes you are.

Please find attached two screenshots with the old and the new layout.

Code: I have searched for the numbers and have found for each movie I checked three sources for the rating in the new page source.

Casablanca (Rating 8.8 ):
<div class="star-box giga-star" itemprop="aggregateRating" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/AggregateRating">
<div class="star-box-giga-star">
8.8
</div>
<div class="star-box-rating-widget">
<span class="star-box-rating-label">Your rating:</span>

<div class="star-box-details">
Ratings: <strong><span itemprop="ratingValue">8.8</span></strong><span class="mellow">/<span itemprop="bestRating">10</span></span> from
<a    onclick="(new Image()).src='/rg/title-starbar/votes/images/b.gif?link=ratings';"     href="ratings"   title="191,245 IMDb users have given an average vote of 8.8/10"
    ><span itemprop="ratingCount">191,245</span> users</a>
</a>&nbsp;
Reviews: <a    onclick="(new Image()).src='/rg/title-starbar/user-reviews/images/b.gif?link=reviews';"     href="reviews"   title="811 IMDb user reviews"
    ><span itemprop="reviewCount">811</span> user</a> <span class="ghost">|</span>
<a    onclick="(new Image()).src='/rg/title-starbar/external-reviews/images/b.gif?link=externalreviews';"     href="externalreviews"   title="147 external critic reviews"
    ><span itemprop="reviewCount">147</span> critic</a></div>
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12 angry men (Rating 8.9):
<div class="star-box giga-star" itemprop="aggregateRating" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/AggregateRating">
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8.9
</div>
<div class="star-box-rating-widget">
<span class="star-box-rating-label">Your rating:</span>
</div>
<div class="star-box-details">
Ratings: <strong><span itemprop="ratingValue">8.9</span></strong><span class="mellow">/<span itemprop="bestRating">10</span></span> from <a    onclick="(new Image()).src='/rg/title-starbar/votes/images/b.gif?link=ratings';"     href="ratings"   title="150,256 IMDb users have given an average vote of 8.9/10"
    ><span itemprop="ratingCount">150,256</span> users</a>

</a>&nbsp;
Reviews: <a    onclick="(new Image()).src='/rg/title-starbar/user-reviews/images/b.gif?link=reviews';"     href="reviews"   title="570 IMDb user reviews"
    ><span itemprop="reviewCount">570</span> user</a> <span class="ghost">|</span>
<a    onclick="(new Image()).src='/rg/title-starbar/external-reviews/images/b.gif?link=externalreviews';"     href="externalreviews"   title="88 external critic reviews"
    ><span itemprop="reviewCount">88</span> critic</a></div>
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The guys from imdb have changed the layout of their website again. This results in the inability of the imdb script to download the rating. Other fields seem not to be affected.

Have you included the custom [Updated] field in your database?

Yes, I have. And this field never causes any problems. It is always updated when running the allrovi script.

Are there any fields not updated from external sources that do not cause [moddate] to be updated when changed?

I am sorry. Could you please restate your question for me? I have a problem to understand what you mean.

The issue I'm seeing, BTW, seems to be sort of the opposite problem. My [moddate] seems to be updated just by putting a record into edit mode—without changing anything.

Yes, I discovered this, too, but only for some movies and not for all. At the "Living Daylights, The" for example, the [moddate] field is not updated when entering the edit mode.  

I am stumped  

Update: Now, I am getting officially crazy. This morning, when removing the entries from the sub-genre field for “licence to kill” in the edit mode, the [moddate] field was properly updated. But after rerunning the allrovi script, the [moddate] was not updated. I repeated these steps several times and checked carefully the [moddate] field.  So, I am sure that this wasn’t an error in observation.
 
Now, I did this test again and now it is working properly. The [moddate] field is updated in both cases: after removing the content from the field in the edit mode and after running the script.

After this I created a new database and added as custom fields [updated] and [sub-genre]. I added the “licence to kill” movie and ran the imdb and allrovi script. Then, I removed the entries from the sub-genre field and closed the edit mode… The [moddate] field hasn’t been updated  The update with the allrovi script worked fine including an update of the [moddate]  field. I repeated the three times and results were always the same.

I don’t see any pattern in this. I think I will throw my computer away and move into the forests.

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Then, I need to start the update manually

What do you mean by this? If Modified hasn't changed, you would have to force an update by using the "Send to" menu or run another "Mass import."

That's what I meant. 

The script engine includes the necessary date-handling functions, but it's not possible to add a custom date-type field to version 0.9. It is in version 1.0, so we can make that change when it's released.

Thanks, that's great. Looking forward to it.

This is curious. If I change any fields (e.g., removing data to see what happens when the script is rerun), Modified is updated (i.e., immediately—before the script is run). I don't know why that might be different for you. In any case, the main program handles the date fields. Whatever is happening has nothing to do with the script.

Are you sure that the update of the field is caused by the rerun of the script and not by removing the data before? I check this with the imdb script and I think that the timestamp is set after the update?

As well you should be, if using PvdImport to update J. River Media Center. It relies on an accurate DateTime to determine which records have been updated by PVD. I haven't noticed any problems with records failing to update. Have you?

Yep, when the "modified" field is not updated, PvDImport does not recognise the update and doen't import the new data.   Then, I need to start the update manually

Update: I have just remembered that I had similar problems with the multiple movies editor:

I have discovered that the field “last modified” is not always updated when using the multiple movies editor. This appears only from time to time. Maybe the problem is related to the field to be modified. When I change the genre, the timestamp does not change but after editing the director field of the same movies the “last modified” field is updated.

Even the script is now officially released, I would like to add two comments on the latest version.

I think the new update field is a really good idea (it would be nice if a similar field for the imdb script exists ... but that’s another point). Unfortunately, the date format is not similar to the date format of the "added" and "modified" fields. Would it be possible that the fields use the local settings of the respective computer? 
 
I have another issue with the "modified" field. I am not sure if this is related to the script or a more general problem of PVD. I rerun the script to get the synopsis to a custom field. The script put the data to the field but the "modified" field wasn’t updated.  I checked this with the "characteristics" and the "flags" field (removing the data and rerunning the script). In both cases the "modified" field wasn’t updated?

The skin engine manual describes in the skin default section some settings to turn off the underline for links. I have added this code to my skin:

<linkdefs>
    <underline_record>false</underline_record>
    <underline_memo>false</underline_memo>
    <underline_combo>false</underline_combo>
</linkdefs>
This works well for all fields except for the people fields (producers, directors, actors). These data are still underlined. Is there an addition setting in the skin engine which I miss or is it not possible to turn these underlines off?
Thanks for any help.

..., but I hope you guys appreciate how many brain cells this is costing me...

Yes, we do. Thanks again for you effort. The script helps me a lot to keep track of my movies.

And we will keep your lost brain cells in font memory 

A minor issue: I think there is no comment in the script what the rick_ca option includes. The only remark I could find is related to the themes. But looking at the code I assume that this option affects also other thinks? If this is true I would suggest to add a separate comment in the upper part of the script.