Posted by: patch
« on: June 14, 2009, 12:44:41 am »I'm off topic here so have continued here
Posted by: rick.ca
« on: June 13, 2009, 06:17:05 pm »Quote
On this we disagree rick.ca unless I'm missing something.
You might be missing the fact I'm not looking for any disagreement.
It simply occurred to me a new user facing the one-time task of importing existing images into a new database would be able to use this utility, and then no longer have a need for Reset's plugin. If that's true, Reset may be able to tailor the design of his plugin more toward your particular needs.
I have no personal interest in this. I've always manually maintained posters "beside" my movie files. Now my media manager, Media Center (to be more precise, the PvdImport plugin recently created by raldo), does this automatically as it updates MC with PVD meta data.
Posted by: patch
« on: June 13, 2009, 12:38:50 pm »Maybe the plugin you were thinking of would not be so necessary now that the Images by ID utility is available.On this we disagree rick.ca unless I'm missing something.
You indicate Tag export/import (like ID3 for mp3) has been added, but unless I am mistaken, the functionality Reset was adding is actually part of this and not yet available.
So Reset, I would still very much appreciate any progress towards acheiving movie tagging functionality.
Posted by: rick.ca
« on: June 13, 2009, 06:32:57 am »Quote
I make the sincere apologies for the undischarged promise.
No need to apologize—I was just curious.
Maybe the plugin you were thinking of would not be so necessary now that the Images by ID utility is available. Its not the same thing, but a new user could use it to get existing images into a database.
Posted by: Reset
« on: June 13, 2009, 05:45:34 am »BTW, what happened with the script Reset was working on?I make the sincere apologies for the undischarged promise.
Unfortunately, now I have less spare time, than earlier. I remember about this script. I will make him as soon as I will have a possibility.
If it will not make earlier.
Thanks for understanding.
Posted by: nostra
« on: June 03, 2009, 09:46:37 pm »Quote
his raises a question in my mind. Is it possible to start a database where images are saved outside the database, and after this utility is used to associate all existing images, change it so images are saved inside the database? If so, it seems to me this would be the best way to handle a conversion (i.e., data from another program) where images are involved. Once the conversion is complete, there would be little need for a script to do the same thing.
Of course, you just use this utility and then in PVD change the option "Save images in database".
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BTW, what happened with the script Reset was working on?
I have no Idea, but I'll ask
Posted by: rick.ca
« on: June 03, 2009, 09:29:02 pm »I just noticed the Images by ID utility on the download page. I suppose it's been there a while. It's described as "program used to associate existing images on HDD with movies in the database." I assume this is relevant only to those who save their images outside the database. It seems the purpose of the utility is to assist new users who have existing data—including images.
This raises a question in my mind. Is it possible to start a database where images are saved outside the database, and after this utility is used to associate all existing images, change it so images are saved inside the database? If so, it seems to me this would be the best way to handle a conversion (i.e., data from another program) where images are involved. Once the conversion is complete, there would be little need for a script to do the same thing.
BTW, what happened with the script Reset was working on?
This raises a question in my mind. Is it possible to start a database where images are saved outside the database, and after this utility is used to associate all existing images, change it so images are saved inside the database? If so, it seems to me this would be the best way to handle a conversion (i.e., data from another program) where images are involved. Once the conversion is complete, there would be little need for a script to do the same thing.
BTW, what happened with the script Reset was working on?
Posted by: Reset
« on: April 04, 2009, 04:17:47 pm »That would be much appreciated.
Importing graphics files from near the movie file is one of the functions needed to implement tag functionality in PVD.
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If it had an option to select the first frame (or whatever frame the user would like) of every video and put it in the "poster" field (or whatever field the user would like) in PVD, that would be awesome!Oh.
I will try to consider all your wishes.
But, please, do not forget, that the developer of the program is unique nostra. I will readdress some questions to him.
Besides, I ask to appreciation that fact, that I'm engaged in developing of scripts and for Russian part of forum.
2 patch: Thanks for a collating.
Posted by: lilhill
« on: April 04, 2009, 02:43:58 pm »Reset, the thumbnail/image creation definitely works for WMV. I didn't try MP4. The only problem I have with this is that you have to do it manually for each video file. I have 1000's of videos. Will the script/plug-in that you make be able to do it automatically without having to click through for every video file?
If it had an option to select the first frame (or whatever frame the user would like) of every video and put it in the "poster" field (or whatever field the user would like) in PVD, that would be awesome!
If it had an option to select the first frame (or whatever frame the user would like) of every video and put it in the "poster" field (or whatever field the user would like) in PVD, that would be awesome!
Posted by: patch
« on: April 04, 2009, 02:07:34 pm »But, I think, the promised plug-in all the same I will make. It can be of use to beginners with already existing selection of images on a disk.
That would be much appreciated.
Importing graphics files from near the movie file is one of the functions needed to implement tag functionality in PVD.
The components of which are:
Export text field data (Attempt described here http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php?topic=870.msg2535#msg2535)
Export graphics data to a file near the movie
Import text field data from a file near the movie http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php?topic=904.0
Import graphics data from a file near the movie
Unfortunately the meta data can't be written to the movie file as mediainfo.sourceforge.net will not support tag writing in the foreseeable future. http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1695277&forum_id=297609
The exporting functionality maybe useful to interface to other media players
http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php?topic=1002.msg2707#msg2707
http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php?topic=1254.0
Posted by: Reset
« on: April 04, 2009, 07:57:28 am »I'll give it a try after I get off of work tonight. I didn't even look into it because I thought it wouldn't work. If that works then I don't think I'll need Reset's script, though it might be useful to others!OK. If at you all turns out, I will change priorities of the workings out.
But, I think, the promised plug-in all the same I will make. It can be of use to beginners with already existing selection of images on a disk.
Posted by: lilhill
« on: April 03, 2009, 11:34:47 pm »I'll give it a try after I get off of work tonight. I didn't even look into it because I thought it wouldn't work. If that works then I don't think I'll need Reset's script, though it might be useful to others!
Posted by: rick.ca
« on: April 03, 2009, 11:09:08 pm »With what types of video files you have problems? Versions 0.9.8.20 and 0.9.9.4 fine take screenshots from formats wmv and avi.
This is my fault. I recalled nostra saying "only AVI," but he actually said...
It works pretty good for AVIs, but not for DVDs and Matroska files... (actually this feature dows not work with these formats at all currently)
...so you're right—either existing version should work fine for lilhill's WMV and MP4's.
Posted by: lilhill
« on: April 03, 2009, 10:53:56 pm »I'm mostly working with WMV and MP4 (primarily WMV though).
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I was unable to get posters/screenshots from the WMV files. I'll try again later tonight.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I was unable to get posters/screenshots from the WMV files. I'll try again later tonight.
Posted by: Reset
« on: April 03, 2009, 10:40:25 pm »Does the new beta support the extraction of thumbnails/posters from any type of video media file (WMV and MP4 specifically)
Hopefully the new version will do the image extract automatically for any type of video...With what types of video files you have problems? Versions 0.9.8.20 and 0.9.9.4 fine take screenshots from formats wmv and avi.
Posted by: lilhill
« on: April 03, 2009, 10:23:20 pm »Ok... Thanks for your efforts Reset!
Hopefully the new version will do the image extract automatically for any type of video...
Hopefully the new version will do the image extract automatically for any type of video...
Posted by: Reset
« on: April 03, 2009, 10:19:16 pm »I wish all to afflict upset. In current versions PVD I could not achieve necessary functionality. I have exhausted all variants (script and plug-in, 0.9.8.20 and 0.9.9.4).
If nostra not give a hint, simply we wait the new version.
If nostra not give a hint, simply we wait the new version.
Posted by: Reset
« on: April 03, 2009, 05:57:33 am »The decision about the plug-in will be delayed for a few days or the decision about the script will be delayed for a few days? Do you think the script will be completed earlier?The script cannot be finished in current versions PVD (nor 0.9.8.20 nor 0.9.9.4) because of program limitations. Nostra promised to correct defects to days off. As far as I understand, in version 0.9.9.5 of restrictions will not be.
For script creation the new version of the program which will appear in a few days is necessary. For creation of a plug-in I need a few days to understand
.Posted by: lilhill
« on: April 03, 2009, 01:14:33 am »Oh, I see... I wasn't aware that nostra was actually working on 0.9.9.5! Thanks for letting me know. I'm looking forward to the script and the update...
Posted by: rick.ca
« on: April 03, 2009, 01:06:18 am »Regardless of exactly what Reset means, it's clear he needs input from nostra, and we know nostra's priority right now is to get 0.9.9.5 ready for release. I suggest you assume he's on task, and whatever the solution, it will get done in due course.